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	<title>Comments on: Prop 8 &#8211; Day 5: The defense stalls and pleads fear factor</title>
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		<title>By: Anji Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anji Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m dying to see statistical evidence of the number of intimidating, violent and injury-resultive &quot;attacks&quot; that are brought by angry mobs of gay people upon members of the straight population. Funny how gay people are threatened, abused and killed by straight people who just can&#039;t stop obsessing about what we do in bed... yet gay people still have the civility to resist violence and trust the courts. Who exactly, then, are the abnormal abominations that Prop8 supporters are so afraid of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m dying to see statistical evidence of the number of intimidating, violent and injury-resultive &#8220;attacks&#8221; that are brought by angry mobs of gay people upon members of the straight population. Funny how gay people are threatened, abused and killed by straight people who just can&#8217;t stop obsessing about what we do in bed&#8230; yet gay people still have the civility to resist violence and trust the courts. Who exactly, then, are the abnormal abominations that Prop8 supporters are so afraid of?</p>
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		<title>By: The Road to Perjury &#171; Prop 8 Trial Tracker</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Road to Perjury &#171; Prop 8 Trial Tracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Yesterday, during the cross examination of plaintiff&#8217;s expert Michael Lamb, defense attorney David Thompson had Lamb comment on studies by two &#8220;experts&#8221; that the plaintiff had planned to call during the trial. It seems now that the two &#8220;experts&#8221; were, according to Prop 8 counsel Andy Pugno, &#8220;fearful of retribution&#8221; if they were to testify.  Apparently the mere suggestion that there evidence would be videotaped shocked them into submission. Nothing like confidence in your own work, for you there.  Anyway, that&#8217;s Pugno&#8217;s story anyway. The real story, as is so often the case with Pugno, is actually far different. “The experts they withdrew were ones that [gave deposition statements] that simply disagree with their thesis,” said Boies. He said plaintiffs would introduce evidence later to show that the defense’s own experts have “admitted that they did not have a basis for believing that same-sex marriages would harm heterosexual marriages and no reason for depriving gay and lesbian couples marriage [and doing so is] depriving gay and lesbian couples harm. They admit that,” said Boies, “and it guts the case of defendants.”(Keen News Service 1/15/2010) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Yesterday, during the cross examination of plaintiff&#8217;s expert Michael Lamb, defense attorney David Thompson had Lamb comment on studies by two &#8220;experts&#8221; that the plaintiff had planned to call during the trial. It seems now that the two &#8220;experts&#8221; were, according to Prop 8 counsel Andy Pugno, &#8220;fearful of retribution&#8221; if they were to testify.  Apparently the mere suggestion that there evidence would be videotaped shocked them into submission. Nothing like confidence in your own work, for you there.  Anyway, that&#8217;s Pugno&#8217;s story anyway. The real story, as is so often the case with Pugno, is actually far different. “The experts they withdrew were ones that [gave deposition statements] that simply disagree with their thesis,” said Boies. He said plaintiffs would introduce evidence later to show that the defense’s own experts have “admitted that they did not have a basis for believing that same-sex marriages would harm heterosexual marriages and no reason for depriving gay and lesbian couples marriage [and doing so is] depriving gay and lesbian couples harm. They admit that,” said Boies, “and it guts the case of defendants.”(Keen News Service 1/15/2010) [...]</p>
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