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2 responses to “Defense profers a harm: gay male non-monogamy”

  1. Perry: Day Three

    [...] and about monogamy among gay male couples.  Lisa Keen, who has been covering trial, files an excellent report on Peplau’s very interesting testimony.  As Keen wrote: And then Moss questioned Peplau at [...]

  2. Michelle DeShane

    I am a lesbian and married to an FTM , and I find this very offensive, I must stick up for my gay brothers who are labeled unjustly.”gay male non-monogamy”as “a foundation for an argument that Proposition 8 prevents the erosion of monogamy as an accepted feature of marriage.”There are other features of marriage that were accepted since the isntitution of the same, such as women being considered the proprety of their husbands, but as times have changed, so has the institution of marriage. Is there enough NEW empirical data, to support this assumption, specifically to support that a majority of gay males do not believe in monogamous marriages?To use a quote from the late, and deeply loved Ann Richards, Texas Democratic Governor,”this is the same box of chocolates wrapped in a different box.”
    The purveyors of these concoctions are the same too: the Conservative Right,the Religous Right Wing,The Mormon Church,The Concervative Catholic Church to name a few.

    Your report says cross-examination also sought to disqualify gays as a “suspect class”—or, roughly speaking, a minority who has little political power and suffers discrimination based on a trait they cannot change.” Are we going to let these allegations continue without scientific data to support their basis?This line of speaking depicts us ALL(the entire gay community) as weak ,defensless, immoral ,and worse of all, genetically flawed, an in a “Trait They Cannot Change”.

    In responding to the Warren (evangelical minister) videotape, Chauncey noted Warren’s choice of words—such as “regardless of lifestyle”—signaled that he didn’t consider gay relationships equal to heterosexual relationships.This box of chocolates has passed it’s expiration date, and clearly brings to mind, a tainted , worn out depiction of the MAJORITY of the gay community in which there is a lot of ilicit drug use, a high number of AIDS cases,and constant changing of partners .” A case study done 25 years ago in which Peplau ,(UCLA psychologist )said that, among some gay male couples, “sexual exclusivity may be the exception rather than the rule,”certainly needs to have more CURRENT information with NEW numbers.Our evolution is more clearly illustrated when Chauncey explained how” the gay movement in its EARLY YEARS did not focus on marriage in large part because it was focused on trying to stop everyday violence against gays and police raids on bars, while trying to secure non-discrimination laws in housing and the workplace.”

    I can’t help but feel like the arguments the defenders of Prop 8 are using are trying to take our movement back to the days of Harvey Milk.
    They are using,and doing so somewhat successfully, weak , outdated assumptions, and old empirical data, to support their cause.Our own data must be more carefully obtained to more truthfully illustrate our validity as a strong (not weak), vibrant (not sickly), important (not suspect class) sector of society.

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